tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post4443910895877450004..comments2023-11-28T21:28:17.116-06:00Comments on THE OWL'S SONG: Religous People *&^% Up EverythingDorcas (aka SingingOwl)http://www.blogger.com/profile/15626748280614018533noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-69031114194830101822010-01-23T08:28:56.332-06:002010-01-23T08:28:56.332-06:00love what you wrote ....Quoting Brennan Manning
...love what you wrote ....Quoting Brennan Manning<br /><br /> The greatest cause of atheism is Christians who acknowledge Jesus with their lips, then walk out of the door and deny Him with their life style <br /><br />that - I think -is what many of the negative comments perhaps were trying to say. it's time we lived as disciples :)seethroughfaithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15041055467020894063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-74439361268016891562010-01-21T10:19:13.767-06:002010-01-21T10:19:13.767-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Dorcas (aka SingingOwl)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15626748280614018533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-81676097758611259502010-01-21T10:11:31.080-06:002010-01-21T10:11:31.080-06:00The most fascinating missions/missionary book I ev...The most fascinating missions/missionary book I ever read (sat up all night because I couldn't stop) is "Bruchco" formerly titled "For This Cross I'll Kill You." I HIGHLY recommend it. It is the story of Bruce Olsen, a young Minnesotan who God sent (compelled?) to go to the Motoloni tribe in Columbia. The story is really amazing, and the whole tribe comes to God...after many years. But one of the most fiscinating things is how he realized the "witch doctor" i.e. medicine man or shaman of the tribe was not an enemy but could be an ally. I'm not, by any means, saying this is always the case. But the wisdom and insght Bruce demonstrated when he realized that the man was trying desperately to HELP his people...well, it is amazing. <br /><br />David, you'd love the book. Do get a copy if you haven't read it. I stumbled across it in the library years ago when looking for fodder for a missions paper. I'm pretty sure it is still in print.Dorcas (aka SingingOwl)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15626748280614018533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-69830872407490258932010-01-21T07:21:49.018-06:002010-01-21T07:21:49.018-06:00Too funny-sangria is a drink and the meake a great...Too funny-sangria is a drink and the meake a great sangria soda in Mexico:-) There is a central american religion called macumbo which is probably a variation of different things and there are some others too.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-54011652934050012582010-01-20T19:27:34.765-06:002010-01-20T19:27:34.765-06:00No ribbeon shirts? No long hair?
I can't eve...No ribbeon shirts? No long hair?<br /><br />I can't even comment on such foolishness!<br /><br />No problem, DM, you didn't hijack anything. And I don't know if that remark was correct or not...just musing. And (blush) I said Sangria and I meant Santeria. That's the Caribbean religion, but there is a Mexican counterpart..Dorcas (aka SingingOwl)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15626748280614018533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-27592094855163982652010-01-20T17:14:39.219-06:002010-01-20T17:14:39.219-06:00I had heard a similar quote that said Haiti was ab...I had heard a similar quote that said Haiti was about 80% Christian and 50% voodoo. I have also heard people say that about Africa. During the day 50% are christians, 50% are muslim but at night they all are (whatever the indigenous religion may have been).<br /><br />What I find interseting is that everything indigenous is wrong. I have many native american friends who express their Christianity in a native way. They use sage and cedar, they use their pipes to pray, they sing traditional songs, they use their native language to pray, they participate in sweat lodge ceremonies. There was a time that most in the church said that doing so was wrong. I even had a Dine brother told he could not wear a ribbon shirt to church because it represented a "pagan" culture. Another church told him he had to cut his hair. Many christian pastors tell their congregations not to go to the pow wows but pow wows are not even a religious gathering although there are some who would like to make it such. I spoke at an indian church in hayward and I asked the congregation-where would Jesus be this weekend? At the pow wow with the people.<br /><br />I do not know enough about voodoo or african religions to make a judgment nor am I saying that all that is indigenous is good. We need to use discernment but we also need to sit and listen and when appropriate ask questions so we dont jump to a wrong conclusion.<br /><br />Dont mean to ramble nor do I mean to hijack your blog but from personal experience I have seen many christians rush to judgment about things they dont know. More on that later:-)Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-49830205177829596502010-01-20T09:46:05.637-06:002010-01-20T09:46:05.637-06:00Diane, I heard a comment on the news (was only cat...Diane, I heard a comment on the news (was only catching a snippet as I walked by the room, so don't know which program or who) that said, "Haiti is 20 percent ______ [I did not hear the word] and 80 per cent Catholic, and 100 per cent Voodoo."<br /><br />I think it may be much like some parts of Mexico where the population is heavily Catholic but it gets mixed with other stuff, and a strange mix (like Sangria) is the result. <br /><br />One of our professors from Trinity who had been in the Phillipines remarked, in a Cross Cultural Communications class, that in the Phillipines people who were Catholic, and Protestants too, saw no problem with mixing it all in with occult things that were part of the culture.<br /><br />A Jamaican commented recently that "we all know that what Pat Robertson said was right. Everyone knows that about the Haitians." <br /><br />Strange stuff. Doesn't change the fact that it is our responsibility to show love, mercy and grace....ah, I gotta get to work.Dorcas (aka SingingOwl)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15626748280614018533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-29558247723112477672010-01-19T19:10:56.013-06:002010-01-19T19:10:56.013-06:00Good post and good point. I don't have time to...Good post and good point. I don't have time to respond right now, but wanted you to know I stopped by and read, and then I read some more in the comments. This is a very good discussion going on over here.much2ponderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02392298165950651491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-72864981156151783042010-01-19T08:16:39.773-06:002010-01-19T08:16:39.773-06:00Ruth OUCH indeed! I'm going to remember that ...Ruth OUCH indeed! I'm going to remember that one! <br /><br />David, I am not discounting that the overwhelming amount of voodoo has an effect. I think it likely does (why I think that is another story). But as you said so well here, why bring it up? Yes, there certainly might come a time when God does bring a prophetic word about this. <br /><br />Evangelist David Olsen (amaing man) had some stories about what can result when there has been lots of occult practice...<br /><br />I just had a conversation about how I have reali8zed I must become more comfortable with the questions and ambiquities in this life. <br /><br />We do not have all the answers. Why do we so often think we must tryn to?<br /><br />Ah, another post for another day!Dorcas (aka SingingOwl)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15626748280614018533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-54191562441270316702010-01-18T18:39:53.371-06:002010-01-18T18:39:53.371-06:00Heard it in church Saturday nite when one of the a...Heard it in church Saturday nite when one of the associates before praying said we don't know why this happened, some speculate it is because of voodoo...<br /><br />Why even bring it up? People are suffering-they don't need us condemning them also. (Not to say that there are not times when God calls a man or woman to deliver a difficult or prophetic word)but I don't think that is what he was calling these men to do in this hour.<br /><br />Now I do admit I was quick to jump on Pat Robertson's statement without hearing it in context but Rev. Robertson could have avoided a lot of grief by praying for the people instead of speculating.<br /><br />I know people ask why and they want to know but we just can't get inside of God's mind sometimes. Look at Job's friends as classic examples. They way I look at it-I have eternity to ask why but by then it probably wont matter:-)David M.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-11875573557676665552010-01-18T15:13:22.223-06:002010-01-18T15:13:22.223-06:00"...reaching out to the oppressed. Let me tou..."...reaching out to the oppressed. Let me touch Him. Let me touch Jesus. So that others may know and be blessed." <br /><br />Since we will be judged the way we judge others (or as a preacher I heard said "God will judge our being God by God's standards for God" Yikes!), I find it very difficult to understand how any Christian leader can pronounce judgement on any group of people or circumstance. If only more people would be God's hands and feet rather than trying to be the Lord's mouthpiece...Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07762104531877111997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-55422333698082968102010-01-17T20:40:26.463-06:002010-01-17T20:40:26.463-06:00Judgement begins at the house of God. Did I read ...Judgement begins at the house of God. Did I read that somewhere?<br /><br />Sigh.<br /><br />"...they stored up goods and many said they would not share them..."<br /><br />WHAT?<br /><br />Being an extension of his mercy...remember the old song, "Just to be his hand extended"?Dorcas (aka SingingOwl)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15626748280614018533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-14603758390701763612010-01-17T19:15:11.021-06:002010-01-17T19:15:11.021-06:00I had many different comments on my facebook page ...I had many different comments on my facebook page and quite frankly disappointed with the Christians who didn't come out and disagree with Pat Robertson but instead took the whole judgment perspective. It is intersting that after any major disaster, people are quick to pronounce judgment on those affected. Not much different from the Pharisees who wanted to know what sin resulted in the person's illness. I also saw it during Y2K where people I went to church with were convinced Y2K was God's judgement on America and they stored up goods and many said they would not share them because those that did not were being follish. When nothing happened these same people were disappointed.Perhaps its human nature to question why bad things happen but we'd be better off springing into action and being an extension of His mercy.David M.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-19073746635449214352010-01-17T18:15:41.665-06:002010-01-17T18:15:41.665-06:00yes, very good. I know that there are some questi...yes, very good. I know that there are some questionable practices in Haiti, but I also know that 80% of people are catholic. <br /><br />I've been thinking about the fact that people think that Christians (and actually anyone who believes in God in any form) are the cause of all or most of the problems of the world lately. found out a former parish member is now an atheist. Have been having some on-line chats.Diane M. Rothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07749136181846671327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-77564131236662148052010-01-17T18:01:14.742-06:002010-01-17T18:01:14.742-06:00I love what you wrote. Yes it is time for us to w...I love what you wrote. Yes it is time for us to wake up and make another name for ourselves.Princess of Everything (and then some)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15389182962616830610noreply@blogger.com