tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post6562879889594012449..comments2023-11-28T21:28:17.116-06:00Comments on THE OWL'S SONG: Romney and the 47%Dorcas (aka SingingOwl)http://www.blogger.com/profile/15626748280614018533noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-25496307320582117192012-12-02T15:29:09.508-06:002012-12-02T15:29:09.508-06:00Thank you, Kevin!
Thank you, Kevin!<br />Dorcas (aka SingingOwl)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15626748280614018533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-10961816503190064352012-11-18T22:12:02.909-06:002012-11-18T22:12:02.909-06:00That's close to what we enjoy in Australia. Na...That's close to what we enjoy in Australia. National consumption tax introduced 12 years ago, resulting in dramatically falling income taxes over time.<br />We also have universal health care, universal education, unlimited (time)unemployment benefits, subsidised pharmaceuticals, a minimum living wage...<br />It's a shame that the politics in America is such an ugly sport, with each side characterising the other as evil. It results in precisely the kind of reckless statements we saw from Romney. If it weren't for the polemically entrenched positions of Republican and Democrat, who knows? Some of those benefits could be enjoyed in the USA too.<br />I love the blog post. It's one of very few attempts I've stumbled across, to express some middle-road politics in the USA. Common sense has a chance...Kevin Bennetthttp://www.onefaithonechurch.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-22215598903910422672012-10-30T22:41:15.326-05:002012-10-30T22:41:15.326-05:00I think we should do away with the income tax alto...I think we should do away with the income tax altogether. Let's have a national sales tax. Most of the rich spend it and any cheaters would also spend it. All the under the table jobs would then get taxed when they spent it. We could exempt food and medicine and have a way of fileing at the end of the year to help the working poor get some of the tax mony back. Bearded Eaglenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-5685610088099660232012-10-26T21:22:05.323-05:002012-10-26T21:22:05.323-05:00Yep. Just cannot get excited about Romney. I don...Yep. Just cannot get excited about Romney. I don't think there is anything wrong with being rich. I'd like to be rich, actually. But...lumping all together was what bothered me about what he said. Vets, elderly in NH, student loans....and just perpetuating stereotypes. <br />Dorcas (aka SingingOwl)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15626748280614018533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-16730835564627156682012-10-09T16:57:26.591-05:002012-10-09T16:57:26.591-05:00Romney showed extraordinary animation, for him, wh...Romney showed extraordinary animation, for him, when making these comments, compared to his usual speaking style. I thought that showed that he really meant what he was saying. His "mistake" was not saying that there are indeed some people who take advantage of the government. Rather, he lumped together those who don't pay taxes for all reasons: disabled, elderly, those in the military in combat zones, those who get wonderful deductions because of great tax attorneys (7000 millionaires), people starting out in their work life with very low paying jobs, those who choose to stay home with their babies rather than taking a somewhat low paying job, etc. The actual cheaters are a very small minority. And perhaps some of the millionaires are also among the cheaters. We've also got multi-million $$ companies which pay no income tax because of loop holes passed by the congress. It is also a fact that there are very many companies which could afford to pay their employees a wage that would indeed qualify for paying more income taxes rather than the owners of that companies squirreling the profits away in foreign investments, away from the eyes of the IRS. Sure, clamp down on cheaters, but also look to successful companies to pay their employees a living wage. Did you know that it would take the average Wal-Mart employee a thousand years to earn what a Walton heir (not working) makes from the inheritance in a year?LoieJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01977264499770654307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-10715263831157314702012-09-28T12:16:03.256-05:002012-09-28T12:16:03.256-05:00I didn't mean YOU can't rant on my blog. ...I didn't mean YOU can't rant on my blog. I meant I don't usually do so. Nor do I usually put political stuff on FB because I think that is not a good place for real discussion...but this time I just had to. Perhaps I misunderstood...and I KNOW clips are taken out of context all the time. But I heard, "It's not my job to worry about those people." Those people are the 47%, an accurate figure, but...oh, I'll shut up now.Dorcas (aka SingingOwl)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15626748280614018533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-84258166054912814512012-09-28T12:13:35.803-05:002012-09-28T12:13:35.803-05:00I understand, Shirley. Yes, I do know people who ...I understand, Shirley. Yes, I do know people who take advantage of Uncle Sam, and I too have concerns about the press...and MANY other things. But I do not beleive that it is half of the American public. As Anne noted, and I've known for years, 2/3 of the Medicaid budget goes to nursing homes. Most people don't know that. I have serious issues with Obama, and I don't think either of them are bad people because they have $. But I think that, in our frustration with those who abuse the systme, we forget some things. That is all. Rant away, sis. I do it all the time. Just not on my blog. However, I do have a special link just for Rants. :-) Dorcas (aka SingingOwl)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15626748280614018533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13173725.post-26473893696477034402012-09-28T12:07:26.822-05:002012-09-28T12:07:26.822-05:00HI Dorcus, My only comment is that Romney did not...HI Dorcus, My only comment is that Romney did not say he "did not care" about the people who are on some government assistance, he said he was not going to try to persuade them to vote for him. That there is a segment of the population that just want handouts. We all know people who choose to work part time or not at all because they know exactly how much they can make and still get all the benefits. That is the segment that he is talking about. There are people who could work but choose not too. He and most Republicans have no problem helping those who need it. Even if the help they need is because of choices they made. The fact is we have lowered the bar that many people who are middle class or just below middle class and they get free health care, food stamps, energy assistance and yet they have an I- phone, cable TV, a second home, in several cases I know of. No one says we should put people out and deny them care. But we are also at tipping point in this country. If more people are on some assistance then there are people who pay taxes then we will no longer be able to afford to help anyone. People who know they can vote for themselves benefits will vote that way. I have family that are on the assistants that I speak of, they do not need to be on it they choose to be on it. Almost every one living in this country has/ or had the opportunity to work and save. Sometimes circumstances beyond their control <br />prevents this. But we as a nation are broke, that is a fact. We could take ALL the money from the so called rich and it would not even put a dent in the debt. So you can not tax your way out, there has to be cuts. Take a close look at China, my children are a result of a nation that does not have the money to take care of their own. Also the media in this country is no longer a free press, the mainstream press in this country is very liberal. They take things out of context and distort what was said. Did they do the same with Obama's comments about redistribution of wealth? Or did not one even hear them? And so ends my RANT!SRBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17197044012241353560noreply@blogger.com